[Ar-list] Lifting

[iko at chem.ucla.edu]

This is going to be rambling, so I apologize ahead of time for the 
disorganization.

It is difficult to assess the standard weight for the average person that 
gives a 50% failure rate when no effort is put into it.  The problem is the 
anytime we lift anything heavy we put in effort and thus add fatigue and 
stress (in game terms).  [BTW what is the maximum stress and fatigue you can 
add at any one time?]

Also how would one do the test?  Would it simply be a test against some 
weight?  Or would it be a STR test where the MS will determine the weight 
lifted?

If we look at Olympic Weightlifting and Powerlifting there are 5 events.  
Ask any lifter and they will tell you that there is skill in each event.  I 
guess that means that one can get a skill (e.g. Bench Press (E, STR)).  
However, infinite skill does not mean one can lift infinite weight.  Should 
there be a limit on how high these skills can be?

I think it may be easier to work backwards from world records.  Here are 
ball park figures I got from the net:
Snatch: 		180 kg
Clean and Jerk: 	210 kg
Deadlift: 		500kg
Bench Press: 		250kg
Squat: 			400kg

Let’s assume that at the attempt the lifter has a 75% success rate (a rating 
of 30), that he is putting maximum effort, both his lifting skill and 
strength are near the human maximum (500 each).  So 500 + 500 + effort – 
r*weight = 30; where r is difficult per mass.  Would this work?